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since circa 1981
on-going..collective..found sounds....full bands..choir arrangements...lonely projects...
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Current Lineup

conrad penner
the people ive played with
2002 - present
Mark Gabriel
some came back..its been a while..since i played with a full band.. but we plan to soon..
2003 - present
billy hogan
if yr interested and appreciate art more than money or fame..get ahold of me..
2003 - present
ryAn mccullogh
and we can certainly try something.
2005 - present
arlie doyle
id like to try some singing arrangements and bowed instruments.....
2006 - present

Past Members

Bill Batt
rotating....this is a collective these are
1981 - 2007

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